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Mixing the old and the new

May 28, 2011

Linux for the GNU South – Attend if you can.

A lot has been written on GNOME 3 and, truth be told, I don’t have the digital horsepower (yet) to run GNOME 3 to give an adequate assessment. I think I get what they’re trying to do and, to be honest, I’m not sure I agree with the direction GNOME is taking here.

Juan Rodriguez is taking the proverbial bull by the horns and has initiated a project called BlueBubble, which marries GNOME 2.32 to the newly released Fedora 15, “breaking the least amount of packages possible.”

What it does, essentially — or at least in Rodriguez’s opinion — is bring the best of both worlds: Fedora 15 plus the latest version of GNOME before 3.0. The future, he says, can wait.

Rodriguez says that the target audience is the same kind of people who wanted the “Old Coke” to come back when Coca-Cola introduced “New Coke” unsuccessfully decades ago.

He’s also seeking help on this, so if you’re really enamored with GNOME 2.32 and want to see it continue on the Fedora 15 and Fedora 16 versions, contact him — he can be found in many of the Fedora channels on Freenode IRC as “nushio”

Not only this, they already have a cool logo and video.

Go for it, Juan!

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  1. May 29, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    I’m just planning to switch to KDE, which is more internally advanced (Nepomuk FTW!) and less about eye candy. The great disappointment about Gnome 3 is not its emphasis of prettiness over usability but rather its failure to incorporate truly significant new features.

  2. May 31, 2011 at 6:00 am

    I think GNOME version (not only for Fedora, but that one too) will fork into 2 branches, one of them being for “old coke” lovers. It’s like KDE3 which still attracts users.

    PS. Here are my reviews of Fedora, if you’re interested:


  3. afs
    May 31, 2011 at 8:05 am

    The last time I purchased Coke, the separate “Classic” labeled bottle was missing. On comparing the nutritional and ingredients info on the “plain” bottle I bought with an old Classic bottle I had, Classic Coke has won; they are the same. (Technically, even Classic Coke wasn’t “real” Coke once they started using HFCS instead of cane sugar.)

    Iirc, the main complaints about “New Coke” were that it was way oversweetened and the “tang” was gone; it had lost its distinction. New Coke catered to what the company’s market research told them the majority of the public wanted. Apparently, what their sales told them was that New Coke didn’t gain enough customers to make up for the old customers they had alienated.

    I don’t think that the Gnome saga is going to have the same ending … or even that it necessarily should.

    • May 31, 2011 at 8:19 am

      We shall see, afs. In my opinion, and Juan’s obviously since he’s going to the extent of trying to put GNOME 2.32 back on Fedora 15, is that there’s a number of people — a significant number, I think (me included) — who will remain GNOME users if they can use a desktop environment that works with their hardware (example: I have a ThinkPad T30 which won’t run GNOME 3, period).

      • afs
        May 31, 2011 at 11:12 pm

        According to the F15 Release Notes, Red Hat does have a developer (Adam Jackson) working on software acceleration. So, by F16 (or so), G3 should be capable of running on more computers.

        Unless the developers have made a huge miscalculation, I think Gnome 3 will be ready for RHEL 7 without substantial reversion.

  4. Colonel Panik
    May 31, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    The Colonel only drinks Mexican Coke. They still use sugar.
    So I guess I will wait for the Mexican Gnome. That is Gnomo
    for all you gringos.

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